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Building Trusted Messengers with Dan Pfeiffer | Hello Merge Tag Ep. 16

Dan Pfieffer of Pod Save America

Dan Pfieffer of Pod Save America

“We have to rethink communications in the progressive movement. It is less about a candidate or a campaign or a spokesperson for a campaign delivering a message to the traditional media who then deliver that message to voters, and more thinking about our audience and our supporters and our volunteers as messengers themselves who have the ability to amplify those messages.”

 

If you prefer video, you can also watch our full conversation:

Dan Pfeiffer is a giant in the progressive messaging space.

Along with many impressive titles under his belt, he worked on the Obama campaign and served as senior advisor and White House Communications Director for President Obama.

He then went on to become an influencer for democracy (my term, don’t blame him). He’s a best-selling author and a co-host of Pod Save America. He also hosts the podcast Pollercoaster, co-hosts Political Experts React on YouTube and writes the extremely influential newsletter Message Box.

Needless to say, Dan is a man with a ton of insight into messaging for Democratic campaigns.

The primary purpose of Message Box is to create campaign messaging-style memos for everyday people.

Campaign staff and operatives write and receive these all the time. But Dan realized that we can no longer win elections simply relying on campaign staff and operatives.

If the Democratic party wants to win elections, at every level of government, we all have to be involved in the process.

So in Message Box, he shares talking points and context around the stories of the day, in a way that is useful and relatable not for full-time Hill staffers, but for anyone who wants to be involved in the march toward progress.

Because, in his words, “This whole election comes down to narrowing the news chasm between what is happening and the voters.”

We covered:

  • The importance of trusted messengers and the need to give them the training to help get the message out
  • Having different strategies for the public internet vs the private internet
  • Why campaigns need to learn to give up control, and relinquish that control to their supporters. They know the people they’re communicating with, we have to trust them to speak in a way they know will resonate
  • The brand of the Democrat Party—both what it is and what it could be
  • What Democrats can learn from Trump’s nurturing of the MAGA media system
  • The all-of-the-above approach to reaching your audience
  • Spam PACs and what the Democratic Party can do about them
  • What could have become of the Obama For America campaign infrastructure after President Obama won in 2008
  • And so much more!

“If you lose the information war, you’re going to lose the political war and we have to invest in trying to win that information war and shift our mentality away from this simple idea that we’re gonna have our message, we’re gonna tell the press and the press is going to tell our voters into really think about distribution of our message.”

Find all episodes at HelloMergeTag.com or wherever you stream podcasts.

 

Links and Resources

  • Twitter
  • Instagram
  • Message Box
  • Pod Save America
  • Organize or Else / Vote Save America
  • Pollercoaster
  • Political Experts React
  • Demcast
  • Dan’s books

Big thanks to our sponsor Civic Shout. Learn more about how they’re helping Democratic campaigns and progressive nonprofits build their lists ethically at civicshout.com/partners.

 

Time Stamps

Dan Pfeiffer’s Background and Message Box (00:00:56) Discussion about Dan Pfeiffer’s background and his purpose in creating Message Box for democratic messaging.

Applying Message Box Locally (00:02:45) Exploring how the concept of Message Box can be applied to down-ballot local races and the importance of empowering supporters as messengers.

Training and Empowering Supporters (00:05:39) The need for training and resources to empower supporters to engage in political conversations and the shift from broadcasting messages to starting conversations.

The Democratic Party’s Brand (00:09:45) Exploring the Democratic Party’s current brand and the party’s desired brand with a focus on inclusivity, economic populism, and social libertarianism.

Information Warfare and Progressive Media (00:12:56) The importance of investing in progressive media and content as part of information warfare, and the shift in mentality needed to win the information war.

Starting a Newscast After Obama’s Win (00:17:33) Reflecting on the idea of starting a newscast after President Obama’s win and considering alternative ways to maintain a direct line for contextualizing and informing the Democratic base.

The platforms for Democratic campaigns (00:19:12) Discussion on the platforms experiencing movement and potential platforms for messaging strategies for Democratic campaigns.

Multi-platform approach for messaging (00:19:30) Importance of utilizing multiple platforms, including YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram, for Democratic messaging strategies.

Utilizing newsletters for direct communication (00:20:29) The significance of newsletters in establishing a direct relationship with supporters and the potential impact of newsletter content.

Jeff Jackson’s effective multi-platform strategy (00:21:25) Recognition of Jeff Jackson’s successful utilization of various platforms for political messaging, including Substack and TikTok.

Mehdi Hasan’s use of Substack for audience building (00:22:30) Discussion on Hasan’s approach to building an audience using Substack and the potential implications of this strategy.

Transition from podcast to newsletter and low overhead advertising (00:22:55) Insight into the transition from podcast to newsletter and the advantages of low overhead advertising in the podcast industry.

Addressing spam PACs and their impact on political communication (00:24:31) Strategies and challenges in dealing with spam PACs and their influence on political communication and fundraising efforts.

The evolution and challenges of Organizing for Action (00:28:32) Reflection on the evolution of Organizing for Action from the Obama campaign and the challenges it faced in maintaining its impact.

Introduction of Voice of America and the Organizer Campaign (00:32:24) Overview of the Voice of America organization and the launch of the Organizer Campaign, focusing on recruiting volunteers and activists.

 

 

 

May 16, 2024/0 Comments/by Josh Klemons
Tags: Campaign Messengers, Crooked Media, Dan Pfeiffer, Mehdi Hasan, Message Box, Newsletters, Pod Save America, Podcasts
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